Oct 14 2010

Excuse me, who is the abuser here, Oprah?

Category: Justice,PhotosSeven @ 9:17 pm


Oprah evidently believes that "Being Her Best Self" is slandering others with verbal abuse

Oprah evidently believes that "Being Her Best Self" means ignoring the obvious truth and slandering others with verbal abuse

I’ve written several posts about Ms. Oprah Winfrey in the past few days that ought to give readers a particularly good idea what this woman is about. Those posts are here, here, and here.

Since the previous post on the subject got pretty long and contains so much information, I am going to do one last one on this woman (for a while, anyway), because I think this is important information that needs to be disseminated so that people are aware of the history.

What did Oprah do to Michael Jackson that was so bad? (besides use and abuse him and his name and family to inflate her ratings)

People have actually asked this question because they weren’t aware of the history behind this woman’s systematic verbal abuse of Michael Jackson. We’re going to have a look at that right now. Be sure to read the three posts I referenced above to get the whole picture. The below is only part of it and I’m sure this list is far from complete.

I want to be sure to mention that I did not write or compile the information below. It was posted on Twitter and Facebook today and has been shared there, but needs wider distribution. Thus, I think it’s worth posting here for reference.

Here we go . . .

The day after “Living With Michael Jackson” aired, Oprahs original plan was to discuss something else, but she couldnt resist talking about Michael. She started the show by saying something like “This show is not going to be about Michael Jackson but OMG, did you all see the documentary yesterday?” Of course, then she and her audience talked about Michael the entire show. She turned straight to the camera and directed a personal message to MJ and said “Michael, if you were my brother I would say to you that it’s not appropriate to have kids sleep in your bed.”

She then invited guests on her show to get them to malign Michael & she’d laugh heartily at their disrespect during the trial. She asked several people about their opinions about the trial and MJ, when Michael was not even the topic of the show.

1) As Randy Jackson has stated, during jury deliberations, she had a show about pedophilia. This is kinda interesting because the old woman, the one juror who said she was huge Oprah fan was the one who slowed down the “jury deliberation process”.

2) She had a show about unrelated men who share intimate relationships with one another (a deep closeness, no sex) yet continued to insist they were heterosexual. Something like that anyway. One of the men said that he often shared a bed with his friends (again, no sex) and Winfrey laughed and said “You’re sounding like Michael Jackson.”

3) When she had Jay Leno on her show, she asked him “What kind of jokes do you tell on your show.” He said, “of course, Michael Jackson jokes”. She went on to ask about his trial experience. When he talked about “wanting to crack a few jokes” during his testimony, she ended the conversation.

4) Larry King once asked her if she felt sorry for Jackson. She smiled slightly before saying no.

5) She had Chris Rock on her show for his movie “I think I love my wife” where she pointed out and played a particular scene where the main characters (all Black) discuss (and insult) Jackson, his father, and his case. After that, she asked her audience if “White people do this?”

Later she kinda cheered on Chris Rock and let him crack some jokes about Michael and wanted more and more but Chris Rock eventuelly stopped and said something like “This trial is bigger than we think, there are so much more behind it”.

5) During her interview with Lisa Marie Presley, she pondered if Jackson used Presley and joined her in her belief that Jackson took advantage of her tendency to feel sorry for the misunderstood. Winfrey claimed she was the same way and that Jackson “sucks you in” with his “I’m so misunderstood” thing.

6) On an episode about Body Dysmorphic Disorder (an emotional disorder that makes “normal” looking people feel they are grotesquely ugly) Winfrey stated –after quickly pointing out that she interviewed Jackson before his “sexual abuse problems”—that before the interview, Jackson was insistent upon controlling the editing. Of course, Winfrey was also insistent upon controlling the editing and wasn’t going to give way to Jackson. While going through childhood photos, she said Jackson kept hiding his face and saying “Oh, oh I’m so ugly.” Winfrey says she didn’t know if he was serious about that or if it was a tactic to try and get her to relinquish control of the editing. She showed a picture of Jackson at fourteen stating that she thought he looked “fine this way” then went on to compare a professionally taken picture of fourteen year old Jackson to a news photo of Jackson during the trial (amid “eews” from her audience) she proceeded to say that she thought he must have BDD.

About the Body Dysmorphic Disorder episode, she had another show about a woman who had been diagnosed with this very disorder. She was obsessed with cosmetic surgery and must have had over a dozen procedures done to her entire body. In her video segment, she said she liked Jackson’s small nose and various other body parts of other celebrities. Then she went on to talk about everything she had tucked and raised and cinched and so on to achieve these looks she so admired. Not to mention the regular visits for botox injections. After her video segment, Winfrey zeroed right in on her admiration of Jackson’s nose. “You like Michael Jackson’s nose?” Winfrey asked incredulous. She didn’t mention anyone else.

7) Another episode of her show dealt with show business parents. One father said he admired the Jacksons and wished for his entertainer children to be just like them. Oprah looked very applled and kinda turned to her her sidekick therapist “Dr. Robin” to talk sense to this man. Dr Robin then told how wrong he was because one of the Jacksons is obviously “struggling” and he shouldn’t want his children to end up like them.

8 ) She had a slumber party with a bunch of little girls at her house once and promoted it all over her show as though it were the best thing in the world. This was after she had said “she would never put herself in a vulnerable situation like Michael Jackson had done with kids”. So, it is okay for Oprah to be in a room with little girls in their bed and playing and talking, but not for Michael?

9) She also chastised Jackson in a way when Jon Stewart was on her show talking about him “dancing” on top of the SUV. Stewart called him an idiot while she said that she heard–heard not confirmed–that Jackson compared himself to Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela and that she thought that was wrong. She didn’t state where she heard that yet we all know she was talking about the Jesse Jackson interview that she made obvious that she didn’t bother to listen to otherwise she would have known that wasn’t what Jackson was doing.

I want to add a big item here, we’ll call it #10. Back in September 2009 Oprah re-aired her 1993 interview with Michael (all for ratings of course). Oprah, during this re-airing of the 1993 interview, mentioned at least three times that “this was before the allegations!“, as if to remind her viewers that she’d never have interviewed him after such allegations (nevermind if they were actually true or not – she is content to let her viewers believe they are, facts and evidence be damned).

Should Oprah be proud that she is so ignorant even though she has access to the same facts as the rest of us? Should she be proud that she bought into (and became part of) the media hype that defined Michael Jackson as guilty even though all facts and evidence pointed to his innocence? I guess she thinks so. Should she be proud of her years of verbal abuse of an innocent man, and her years of being one of the ringleaders of ignorance-based mob mentality against him?  Is this her “Best Self“? How could anyone’s “Best Self” consist of this type of behavior?

Here is what Deborah Ffrench wrote about this back in September, 2009:

It was with a growing sense of astonishment that I watched the Oprah Winfrey show on Michael Jackson – her sole public comment on his death so far. Whilst replaying her seminal 1993 interview, Oprah proceeded to tell us how she had felt at various points during it. Topics included her hair, her feelings of nervousness, what she was wearing and other similar reflections. Strangely, no airtime was spent discussing the ambivalent nature of the legacy Michael has left behind, and it quickly became apparent that Oprah deemed it unnecessary to raise any questions about the allegations Michael faced during his life. In fact, throughout the interview she displayed such a palpable air of disinterest in her subject, it was unclear as to precisely what her reasons for doing the show actually were. It’s difficult to believe that a woman whose personal wealth was built upon a reputation for emotional truth and justice, can really be unaware of the profoundly substantial doubts hanging over the authenticity of the molestation allegation made by Evan Chandler on behalf of his son Jordy. Unbelievable, because Oprah has the same access to information that everyone else has.

There is an enormous amount of evidence to support the view that Michael Jackson was completely innocent of the charges levelled against him in 1993, and again in 2005; and that he was in fact the victim of an elaborate and bold extortion attempt that proved – in the end, to be very successful. The award winning 1994 article by distinguished writer Mary A. Fischer -’Was Michael Jackson Framed’ – details not only the lack of evidence behind the Chandlers’ claims, but also the full extent of the non-credibility of Evan Chandler. Jordy only accused Michael after a hypnotic drug was administered – Evan authorized its use after Jordy was allegedly reluctant to go on record stating that he had been abused. What is perhaps less well known, but again is well documented by authors such as Aphrodite Jones in her book ‘The Michael Jackson Conspiracy’ and numerous other authors and witnesses to the events of 1993 and 2005, including Thomas Mesereau and Brian Oxman – is the level of complicit involvement between the Chandlers lawyers, Tom Sneddon’s department and key players in the media, namely, Maureen Orth, Diane Dimond and the online tabloid site ‘The Smoking Gun.’ This complicitness would keep a ratings-driven media motivated to supply increasingly horrifying stories about Michael to a baying and hysterical public. In a gesture of compliance with the police investigation, Michael agreed to a humiliating, physical examination of his body to clear his name. Jordy had asserted Michael had been circumcised – he had not, he also claimed Michael had discolorations on his genitalia – there were none. It is perhaps the level of media viciousness directed towards Michael for over 15 years however, that remains in most people’s minds. The sheer amount of newspaper stories, comedy shows, talk shows, television and comment by ’so-called’ experts that would become devoted to negatively reporting on the allegations would reach unprecedented levels of coverage and hostility. It is interesting to note just how many people – now that Michael is dead, have said it was the homogeneity of the media’s stance that made them assume Michael was guilty. I believe Tom Sneddon, Diane Dimond, Maureen Orth, Evan Chandler (I do not include Jordy as he was a child) and the Chandler lawyers – Rothman and Feldman, to be the key protagonists of the sustained media and legal attacks Michael faced from 1993 onwards. These attacks would erode and degrade Michael’s spirit and profoundly damage his once stratospheric career.

It is against this background of a lack of answers and the grief of millions of people, that Oprah’s choice not to explore the possibility that the truth about Michael has for 15 years been distorted and manipulated into something vastly different from the reality of what actually happened and who he really was – can be seen as truly extraordinary. There is no room here to cover the scandalous claims of the mother of the alleged victim in 2005, who admitted on oath that she had previously made her son lie to support her claim that she had been sexually abused by staff in a J.C Penny store. What I will say is this: The grief so many are feeling now is not just for a life tragically ended, but also for the damage done to Michael’s name and legacy, yet Oprah decided we would rather hear about how excited she felt when she first saw the fun rides at Neverland. No one said her show had to be a Disney tribute, but it didn’t have to amount to little more than a glorified slideshow either. For a woman famed for asking the difficult questions, the uncomfortable questions; this remembrance came across as an afterthought. Michael Jackson, perhaps the greatest entertainer of all time, who gave a black woman in the early 1990’s the career break of a lifetime – deserved better.

One of our regular commenters here shared something telling with me that further details this woman’s abusive nature. “Lorrie Jackson“, a commenter on Huffington Post in an article about Randy’s comments, posted this information:

Oprah said, “I don’t do tributes to people who abuse children!”  (Michael never abused any children, but Oprah certainly has abused Michael)

But she’s made TONS of references to Michael on her show in recent months.

Here she is discussing him with Whitney Houston

Here she is discussing him with Celine Dion

Here she is discussing him with Liza Minnelli

Here she is discussing him with Kenny Ortega

Here she is discussing him with J.K. Rowling

Here she is asking Janet about Michael AFTER the ’05 trial

Beginning to see a pattern here? She couldn’t stand Michael even after he helped to provide her the largest viewing audience she’d ever had in the early 90s. Her best friend Gayle even slandered him on the day of his memorial on her Sirius radio show. Now she wants be in his house with his family? Outrageous!

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Now, after reading all this I ask:  Who is the abuser? How many such horrible, nasty comments and ill-informed harsh judgements has Michael Jackson ever made about Oprah Winfrey, or anyone else for that matter?

Evidently, Oprah Winfrey believes that in order to “Be Your Best Self” you must willfully ignore available facts, and systematically slander, abuse, mock, and put others down. Including someone who never hurt you and in fact helped your career in a big way — and who never hurt anyone else for that matter, especially not any children.

If this is Oprah’s “Best Self“, she may as well quit while she’s behind. She’s certainly in no position to teach anyone else how to be theirs either, given her own behavior.

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I have an update to share with you from a friend. She says the Oprah interview with Lisa-Marie Presley is set to air October 21. Before that date, you’ll see shows planned that indicate Oprah continues her obsession with pedophiles, including seeing them where they don’t even exist! (such as seeing Michael Jackson as one even though all facts and evidence show otherwise). My friend says:

There will be 2 molestation cases discussed in the same week with the LMP one being done AFTER those 2 which makes it pretty obvious where Oprah still stands in judging Michael. I am so upset about this!

Monday, October 18 All New! Exclusive: The 16-Year-Old Boy Who Killed His Molester (TV-14) He was released from jail just for this interview. In an exclusive, Oprah talks to Daniel Kovarbasich, the 16-year-old boy who killed his molester by stabbing him 55 times. Hear how he and his parents were groomed and learn the warning signs that could help parents protect their children. Then, in 1993, Ellie Nesler became one of the most notorious killers in America after walking into a courtroom and shooting the man accused of molesting her son. Now, find out what happened to the son she was trying to protect. Monday’s Oprah.

Tuesday, October 19 All New! Susan Boyle, Jackie Evancho, Debby Boone: What Happened To The Next Big Thing? (PG) Overnight, she was crowned the next big thing. On today’s show, global superstar Susan Boyle shares an exclusive performance from her new album, “The Gift.” Then, 10-year-old Jackie Evancho left the nation stunned when she unleashed her incredible voice on “America’s Got Talent.” How has the overnight success impacted her life? And, singer Debby Boone lit up our lives when she won the Grammy for best new artist in 1977. Where is she now? Tuesday’s Oprah.

Wednesday, October 20 All New! First Television Interview: Tyler Perry Speaks Out About Being Molested & The Aftermath (PG)

Thursday, October 21 All New! For The First Time: Lisa Marie Presley Speaks Out About The Death Of Ex-Husband Michael Jackson (PG) Oprah is on location in England as Lisa Marie Presley speaks out about the death of her ex-husband, Michael Jackson, for the first time. In her one and only interview, she opens up about the intimate details of their marriage, the parallels between Michael and her famous father, Elvis Presley, and why the marriage ended. Thursday’s Oprah.

My comments about this lineup of shows for the week of October 18th, 2010:

the parallels between Michael and her famous father, Elvis Presley“? What this may mean is: “Michael was a drug addict and that’s why he died!

Now, we all know that is NOT the case. Michael didn’t die because “he was a drug addict“. But that has been the meme being pushed by the media and some Jackson family members who weren’t even around Michael much during the later years of his life. They may remember 1996 but how much did they know about what was happening from 2000-2009 with Michael in regards to this? Have they ever mentioned seeing him abuse drugs or exactly what drugs he was abusing? As far as I know, they have not.

Michael wasn’t (evidently) actively abusing any drugs when or before he died. I say that because the only drugs found in his system during the autopsy were the ones put there by Murray. There was nothing else there. Also, the drugs found in his home were also not opioids or painkillers. Also, there were no physical signs of long-term drug abuse according to the coroner’s report. Michael died because Murray killed him, not because he was a drug addict. That meme seems to be pure crap at this point, and unless some other evidence surfaces (and it may come trial time), I personally hold that opinion for now.

Pushing this meme about Michael only helps Conrad Murray and AEG (possibly et al) get away with his murder while having to take no responsibility at all in it. And that is grossly unjust because they ARE responsible, especially Conrad Murray.

Further, as I said previously, Oprah remains obsessed with pedophiles and pedophilia. She sees them everywhere. Even where they don’t exist! And I say this with as much compassion as anger: Oprah Winfrey needs psychiatric help. And she can well afford it. She can afford a LOT of it. Why doesn’t she get some? How many lives will this woman help ruin before she deals with her own inner demons and stops attacking, belittling, and abusing innocent people like Michael?

Why does Michael Jackson and his family have to be made to suffer Oprah Winfrey’s demons – be they baggage from her having a been a victim of sexual abuse herself, or just pure narcissism on her part?

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78 Responses to “Excuse me, who is the abuser here, Oprah?”

  1. Sheena says:

    Best written article on the internet regarding Oprah’s obsession with the false allegations. I used to enjoy her, now I see her pattern and it’s narcissistic. Oprah is cancelled.

  2. John T Johnson says:

    Thank you !!

  3. Suzanne Chatburn says:

    Oprah I can’t believe I listening to your crap. How did you ever defend these two money grubbing young men and thier parents. Michel Jackson was found. NOT GUILTY
    How about there is NO presentation that was consistent. OPRAH. HOW CAN KISS WEINSTEN AND BE HIS BFF. YOU ARE A HIPPOCRATE OR WHAT
    Well I was a 5 year old little girl I lived with my three brothers, my parents and a Iive in college man who took care of us after school.
    He would play with me give me rides on his shoulders. He took me to the bathroom everyday had me spread my legs and masturbate between my legs. This went on for two years
    I finally went to my parents to explaining detail what was going on.
    Needless to say this man disappeared. Also did everything that happened to me. Never discussed again
    I lived in terror for years.
    I was attacked in my bedroom by some man who broke into my house and cut off my pajamas. I didn’t know if my screams would come out
    My father came to chase him offf.
    My father being a CIA. my father knew who this man was. We lived on a small island. I was told not to say anything. We were Americans living on an island where exposure would be too embarrassing, and come back on my dad.
    I was raped at 14. My mother found it in my diary and threw the diary at my father when he came home. I was told it was my fault and I was a slut.
    Again never spoken about again. I suffered I developed bulimia. Later alcoholism and drug abuse.
    My life living hell. I suffered from anxiety and depression for 29 years
    I finally sought therapy. On and off for 35 years. But I couldn’t really tell the whole story. Yes, you do come to hate yourself.
    I have an excellent psychiatrist and the correct drugs I was married and have two beautiful incredible children. I was always hypervitulant that something could happen to my children.
    I divorced my husband because he had very strange ideas of love and sex.
    When the ME TOO MOVMENT started.
    Someone asked me if I could ever forgive my mother
    After much thought I said no. Maybe someday. I don’t know.
    I think the whole Neverland came out. You and these too men have way too many problems in your stories.
    I feel you should all be ashamed

  4. Nancy says:

    Loved this ! It would be good if this could be reposted now with Oprah involved in the trash documentary Leaving Neverland !

  5. AJ says:

    This post still needs to be shared; people keep forgetting (many more probably never knew) of the hypocrisy of this woman and the pain she’s caused with such gleeful malice.

    Said it before and I’ll say it again: fans are like elephants; we never forget.

    We may forgive – IF Oprah ever acknowledges her two-faced, back-stabbing, smarmy character assassination and asks for forgiveness – but we will never, ever forget.

  6. Seven says:

    She has her money, ratings and fame, she had her whipping boy she could punish for her own past. She’s gotten what she wants out of him. She won’t care.

  7. Bev says:

    Has Oprah been sent this . . . She needs to know how Michaels fan base feels!

  8. Daiha says:

    I know this has been posted quite a while now. I have only been recently finding out more about Michael, as well as supporting him.

    Oprah did two unforgivable things:

    1)Take over Discovery Health Channel and replace it with her OWN. As if the viewers need any more of her pretentious self-discovery philosophy and non-stimluating reruns of Dr. Phil or whatever other mind-numbing shows they have been airing.

    2)Her slandering, innuendos, jokes about Mr. Michael Jackson. I can’t help but draw some of my own conclusions, perhaps having my own share of ignorance as well. But after knowing so much more about Michael and inevitably this Oprah, I can’t help but see her actions against Michael as either:

    a) misplaced resentment from her childhood? (don’t get me wrong, I am NOT indifferent to nor condone abuse)

    b) she “represents” millions of women and feels she needs to take a stand as some kind of a hero to children, even to go as far as publicly humiliate and condemn an innocent man. Facts, evidence, manners and etiquette be damned. Way to go of being an example to kids;

    c) JEALOUSY? – people around the globe love and recognize Michael, despite how she and the lame stream media portray him. Michael showed us, perhaps even taught us kindness, love, devotion, humility, charity, gratefulness, adoration to his fans and people of different races around the world (heck, I watched videos of stores being closed down for the day just for Michael to roam inside them). That is why he has, is, will always be loved by his supporters. Oprah, on the other hand, pulls out that racism card after a shop in Paris refused to stay open for her late at night. Uh. Yeah.

    What does she really have against Michael?

    She needs to stop showing off her wealth, health and so called power, and actually do something worthwhile. Like Michael had. Always had.

    Well, this is getting depressing by the minute. I wish everyday that Michael is still here with us. But then, I think Taj nailed it when he said that Michael is too good for this world.

  9. Dani says:

    What do you think she had in mind when she had aired a portion of her show about the premier of This Is It? She even went as far as to skyping Jackie and Tito. I figure she’s as starved for ratings and a bigger platform than what she’s already got. Can you say greedy!

  10. june says:

    Seven, on the subject of interviews and the technique of the interviewer (Oprah) to talk over people and push their own agenda during interviews, last night I watched on YT the entire Geraldo Rivera interview with Michael from 2005 at the beginning of the trial. Just at the time there had been a Grand Jury leak, and Judge Melville “permitted” Michael to appear on Geraldo to share “general information”. Michael ultimately read from a short prepared statement at the end of the interview.

    I was so impressed by how Michael handled himself at this very stressful time in his life. Geraldo was a wonderful interviewer, but I noticed many times that Michael repeated the question back to Geraldo, asking him to confirm the question, before answering it, thus, I thought, giving himself time to digest the question more fully before providing an answer. This technique is one ALL celebrities (and others) interviewed by Oprah should adopt, make her clarify the question before jumping into the answer. Oprah talks over her interviewees, puts words in their mouths, and does not give them adequate time to figure out what she’s even asking!

    Michael learned through much trial and error how to field questions but I wish he had learned it sooner in his life. And it sure would be nice NOW if Geraldo would step up with his own pro-Michael documentary.

  11. David says:

    Hey Seven, since we’re always talking about the media pundits that mock MJ, we also need to talk about the ones that RESPECT MJ.

    This is FOX News’ Mike Huckabee on MJ’s life and society’s treatment of him. He spoke with kindness, compassion, and sympathy! He criticizes our culture for dehumanizing celebrities by mocking them, and says that MJ was a human being JUST LIKE ALL OF US!! He talks about how we as fans DON’T have a right to know everything about celebrities, and we shouldn’t treat them like commodities. He ends it by saying that EVERY human deserves respect, MJ included, and we should all follow the golden rule. WOW!

    And the best part is that there was no mention at all about the allegations, which is almost unheard of when a media pundit speaks on MJ! Oprah needs to follow his example!


  12. Carolyn says:

    I am beginning to think something is seriously wrong with Oprah.

  13. carina for MJJ says:

    Thanks “seven say´s and gigi. It does not sound good so far.Gigi-you mentioned those big eyes!
    Oprah is 2;faced. She has 2 basic facial expressions with some variations.One is the one with the “hysterical”laughter and or grin ,the one you can see on top of this post, the other is the expression of a” concerned”woman, again with some variations.She is now selling off her old programs cheap-they show them here 2-3 pm when nobody watches. They are so boooring.Obviously she will try to get feelings boiling on all sides with these upcoming shows. No way I want to add a cent to her accout, she probably ,and rightly so,is concerned re her pay for program that is in the make.I hope nobody will watch those.-I have some material on the 6/25 morning & Michaels death,I will post that another time.

  14. gigi says:

    I saw this posted someone who watched the Oprah show today.

    “should have seen O today with Tyler Perry her eyes were so BIG…she savored every gory detail bout being molested..enjoying it!”

    And this:

    “why am i NOT surprised that Friday’s Oprah show is about a woman who had sex with teenagers and she is doing another show on Nov.5th”

    “NO Coincidence on the same week of her LMP interview @Oprah is doing 3 shows on child m____? She just added another one #FAIL”


    Oprah’s M.O. has not changed, she’s laying it on thick.

  15. Seven says:

    Just for the record: I do not watch TV anymore and haven’t since around 2001. I don’t have cable or even a working television, and I don’t intend to watch Oprah. In fact I never did except when my Mom happened to have it on and I caught some of the nasty comments made above. Of course I watched the 1993 interview when it happened because it was Michael.

    Thus, I will not myself be providing any transcript from Oprah’s shows with LMP or Mrs. Jackson. I will leave it to others and to YouTube to provide those. I don’t expect, based on the previews of the LMP interview, that Ms. Winfrey’s M.O. has changed.

    I think it is good that the millions of Michael Jackson fans see her for what she is. She has – via her own actions through the years and in the present – let us know who and what she is. I am happy that she is exposed. Exposing her is about the only thing that can be done at this point. As is, she is a glorified tabloid trash peddler and part of the same lame$tream media that lynched Michael Jackson over and over and over again for decades.

    Their objective right now is to portray Michael as having been at fault for his own murder with the “he was an addict” meme. AS IF that absolves Conrad Murray of his actions on June 25th, 2009, or absolves AEG of their inaction prior to that date. It does not or at least should not in any moral or just society. But this is not a moral or just society. Far from it.

    And of course they must perpetuate the meme of him as child molester and freak – because if they came out now and told the truth about Michael Jackson – they’d have to admit that they lied, that they sensationalized, that they crucified and persecuted an innocent man for profits – for decades.

    And they are not about to do that. The criminals are running the system.

  16. carina for mjj says:

    Thank you for the bits about Oprah&LMP.So it points to not much different than before or very diluted interviews as they know of all the positive out puoring for mjj.Plese post more later.A
    transcript(need not be exact word for word) would be nice for us outside the US.
    I would like to refer you to the This Is Not It by TINI; and also via mj77/the dancers. There you can read testimonies by a few who just about managed to have some contact with Michael in his last days, up to 6/24-that night they were given a 15 seconds audience each.The site is a bit
    tricky to find and responses are at times wiped off.The testimomies are a definete must.You can more easily find the video”This IS Not It-Michael jackson-SPREAD THE THRUTH”.Maybe you already know of it. It was rather active last summer, but has picked up again.I just found it by chance.
    , Really sad things.The video “thisisnotit”,very good,beutiful and sad, but the testimonies
    are special and by people who actually got to speak and hug Michael before the security found out! and these were Michaels friends.

  17. Tyga says:

    I never realized how many comments she made. I did noticed that when she talks about him it’s nothing really positive. How ungrateful when he gave her the highest rated episode of her show.

  18. Susan says:

    Hi Seven:

    I just saw a quick promo of the Lisa Presley interview. It consisted of Oprah’s questions … but alas, none of Lisa’s answers were shown. Oprah asked (and please forgive me if not completely accurate, as it was quick) the following:

    “Did you think there were parallells between Michael and your father. Did you suspect any drug use. How much pressure was there to have children. Did he have to die for you to realize how much he loved you. Could you have saved him.”

    I keep thinking of what Marlon said at Michael’s service – “Maybe now they’ll leave you alone.” It does not seem like they ever will.